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The Ink & Paint Club

Postby Tekwych » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:15 am

A place to talk about Animation. Did the art form die in the early 90s? Is Filmation the pinnacle or does MoonScope do it better? What do you think of the Direct to DVD films by Marvel and DC? What are the best series ever drawn?

I hope I don't have to explain where the thread title comes from.
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Re: The Ink & Paint Club

Postby NoisyDvL5 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:33 am

I'm not a big cartoon fan, so I don't know any specifics. I still enjoy watching (but for different reasons) most of the old 80s cartoons. I have the full Timm DCU on DVD, but that's about it.

DC movies...

I really, really liked Wonder Woman & Green Lantern. Those were great.
New Frontier was good, but it's the source material I thought that did the work there.
Gotham Knight and Doomsday were okay.
Public Enemies was so many shades of awful I thought I was Lay Ze-Man for a second. :lol:

Marvel Movies, it's been awhile, so I'm fuzzy...
The Ultimate Avengers were okay. I loved Iron Man in those. RIBS!!!!
I remember liking Iron Man.
I think Doc Strange seemed dissatisfying by the end.
Next Avengers was okay.
Never watched Hulk vs.
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Re: The Ink & Paint Club

Postby dayraven » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:52 am

we just watched the green lantern the other day on cartoon network... we all liked it, though i had to bite my tongue to keep from ruining certain details for the fams. chris meloni was a GREAT pic for hal's voice, and in truth, in thinking about my protestation of ryan reynolds getting cast for the LA film, i not only would vote meloni over reynolds, ultimately, i think hal should be played by mike rowe. he's got the looks, he's got the voice, he's got the sense of humor... i mean come on, he's even in good shape!! the costume wold need minimal padding to get his to "super-heroic."
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Re: The Ink & Paint Club

Postby manekochan » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:03 pm

:oh: .....
Amber is speechless about this thread. Enjoy it while you can. :oh:
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Re: The Ink & Paint Club

Postby Tekwych » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:20 pm

Best 'currant' animation series:
Avatar: the Last Airbender

Best Animated Movie of 2009:
Wonder Woman

Best Japanese Animation Series:
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

Some of the better 'American' Animation Series:
Gargoyles (Disney)
Static Shock
Bubblegum Crisis 2040
Gilgamesh
Which Hunter Robin

Series that have to be included in any conversation:
Gatachaman (Battle of the Planets, G-Force)
Robotech (Macross)
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Star Blazers
DC 'Timm' style animation
Hanna-Barbera

Others that I feel deserve mention:
Code Lyoko
Danger Mouse
Spider-Man: The New Animated Series (MTV: 2003)
The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle
Aeon Flux
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Re: The Ink & Paint Club

Postby manekochan » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:44 pm

Okay, yeah. It didn't last long.
The best animated things ever created? I'm going to have to go with Escaflowne for my own personal reasons, but I'm going to try to keep my love for it in check.

Industry-changing stuff
Batman the Animated series: this thing was groundbreaking when it premiered--- simplified animation, contiguous (... sometimes...) stories, dark theme, airbrushed backgrounds on black illustration board, and some particularly fabulous voice acting, this cartoon proved to American audiences that animation could be for more than children

The Iron Giant: over-looked during a summer that will always go down in my mind as the ruination of ABBA (thank you, Son of Sam trailer, for ruining Fernando forever and ever and ever), this movie set the stage to bring WB animation back full force. It failed. It failed so damn hard that you kind of have to ask yourself why. Why would such an incredible movie, with critical and industry acclaim, be so badly received at the box office? This was the beginning of the end, folks.

The Black Cauldron: Oh, no. Not for being good. This gets its own listing because it was such a piece of awful trash that it almost shut down the Disney animation department. An overhaul, I'm assuming, was long overdue and great movies followed it, so... I guess it was a good thing.

The Nightmare Before Christmas: got people to look at Stop-motion as a medium again

Spirited Away: Due to the bad handling of Princess Mononoke (can you say 34 prints? Hello?!? That's not a release. That's a pittance.), this almost never made it over here. I was livid. Having seen trailer after trailer for it on tv and listening to freaking Nestle commercials for it all the damn time, even having to walk past a gloriously beautiful poster for it on the way to school in Tokyo EVERY DAMN DAY FOR A MONTH, getting to watch it opening week in a theater and realizing it was one of the most incredible things I had ever seen, to not have this imported because of "bad box office returns on previous Ghibli films" was a damned slap in the face! After it's nomination for "Best Animated Feature" (don't get me started on that category addition because that's a whole other rant) Disney came to its senses and kept their contract with Ghibli, but if Spirited Away hadn't have been awesome we might not have gotten the Ghibli films that followed it. I don't really think it counts as industry changing, but I'm gonna give it some leeway. I think it certainly made the bar a little higher and it also assured the import of the Ghibli library.

Toy Story: The first computer animated movie that actually made computer animation look nice. Wow. And a good story, too? Did we win the animation lotto? I'm still not a fan of computer animation all that much, but Pixar is consistently and constantly amazing. Dreamworks is getting better, but they still can't touch them and since the Disney acquisition of Pixar and Lasseter heading up both animation departments the future for animation at Disney looks fairly bright.

Sailor Moon: If only because it brought anime more into the mainstream and paved the way for later juggernauts like Pokemon. It also attracted an audience of girls, something that tv animation has traditionally not been able to hold onto very well.


Just Damn Awesome

Invader Zim: bizarre, odd, funny, sometimes grotesque
Twelve Kingdoms :)
Aaahh! Real Monsters
Tiny Toon Adventures
Escaflowne
Evangeleon
Revolutionary Girl Utena
Clerks the Animated Series
Aeon Flux
Duckman
The Tick
Once upon a Time (aka Windaria)


Retro Stuff that's probably not that awesome once you watch it again, but your brain doesn't understand that

Darkwing Duck
Eek! the Cat
He-Man
Voltron
Care Bears
Shirt Tails
Ren and Stimpy (never really liked this show... really...)
Vampire Hunter D
G-Force (not Gatchaman... just G-Force, Battle for the Planets or whatever...)
Speed Racer
Family Dog

What the hell is wrong with them?
Bell of Chirin
Fish Police
Dinosaucers (oh crap... there goes the damned theme song... -_-; sigh...)
Capitol Critters (I admit that I watched it, taped it even... but, I know that it was .... not good.... very much not good...)

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Re: The Ink & Paint Club

Postby manekochan » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:45 pm

Tekwych wrote:
Some of the better 'American' Animation Series:
Gargoyles (Disney)
Static Shock
Bubblegum Crisis 2040
Gilgamesh
Which Hunter Robin



Bubblegum Crisis 2040, Gilgamesh and Witch Hunter Robin are all anime.
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Re: The Ink & Paint Club

Postby Tekwych » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:55 pm

manekochan wrote:
Bubblegum Crisis 2040, Gilgamesh and Witch Hunter Robin are all anime.

Yeah, got off topic there. Too excited. Mind went faster than my hands.
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Re: The Ink & Paint Club

Postby Ebonhorn » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:58 pm

I wish I could remember all the animations I've watched.
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Re: The Ink & Paint Club

Postby chuck20 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:52 pm

I like turtles! :blush:

( both ninja and reptile)

But seriously, I love the Timm-Verse. Just got Superman: Complete TAS and Complete JL. Man the first episodes of JL are awkward.
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